Sunday, July 10, 2022

To Prosecute Trump Yes or No: The Biggest Question Ever in American Legal History

One view of America today
(Obvious to rational Americans)

How Trump sees himself

The LA Times has an interesting and excellent article that the entire country is asking or wondering about with this headline:

Prosecute Trump? AG Merrick Garland is investigating aggressively but prosecuting cautiously

The House Select Committee looking into the January 6 insurgency on the National Capitol has produced impressive evidence that could allow prosecutors to argue that Trump committed crimes as he tried to overturn the 2020 election. But, indicting a former president for trying to subvert an election is harder than it looks.

My short introduction: With the several suppositions below from both sides the legal argument in mind as well as any personal political views aside, let me ask this honestly:

What if Lincoln had done nothing after April 12, 1861?

What if FDR had done nothing after December 7, 1941?

What if Geo W. Bush had done nothing after 9/11?

Where would we be today? Certainly not the “United States of America” but instead where we seem to be heading since Trump’s dreadful time in office and the aftermath since that seems to favor a growing discontent and ugly sour mood for some sort of “Dis-United States of America” that is solely owned and operated by Trump, Inc.

The LA TIMES main article (formatted to fit the blog):

We know more clearly now that Trump: (1) tried to bully for VP Mike Pence into blocking Congress’ count of electoral votes, (2) tried to bully the DOJ into declaring the election fraudulent (even though they knew it wasn’t), and he (3) stood by watching for 187 minutes (3 hours) showing and seeming his approval while armed supporters sacked the Capitol.

This has led many citizens to wonder: Why isn’t AG Merrick Garland prosecuting this man

The answer is both complicated and simple because indicting a former president for any crime is harder than it looks.

Examples of legal doubt or assurances:

Paul Rosenzweig, a former federal prosecutor (and anti-Trump Republican), told the article author writer:It’s definitely not a slam-dunk. It will require tough decisions.”

Insert Note: The problem isn’t lack of evidence.

Former Trump aides who have testified before the House committee and been interviewed by the FBI have taken care of that aspect.

But, the problem, as Rosenzweig and other former prosecutors say is that convincing a jury that Trump is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt will still be difficult — especially when the former president, armed with good lawyers, can challenge that evidence.

Rosenzweig further said:We know from the polls that about 30% of the American public thinks Trump did nothing wrong on January 6. Thirty percent of a jury is three or four people. I think getting a unanimous conviction will be nearly impossible, even in liberal D.C., and a trial that ends in Trump’s acquittal would backfire. It would not only have the effect of giving Trump impunity, but it would give him impunity and an aura of invincibility.”

Others disagree

Donald B. Ayer, another Republican former prosecutor, thinks a conviction would be possible saying:Trump was ready to have Mike Pence be killed. You tell that story to a jury, and I think you win.” 

Then Ayer noted that DOJ regulations require that prosecutors believe they have a high probability of winning a conviction before they can indict.

AG Garland is doing is both: Investigating aggressively and prosecuting cautiously.

Legal Actions to Date:

1. Recently, DOJ lawyers have served subpoenas on Rudy Giuliani and John Eastman, both lawyers who advised Trump on his schemes, and on pro-Trump activists who organized bogus slates of “alternative electors in swing states like AZ and GA.”

2. Last month, FBI agents searched the VA home of Jeffrey Clark, a former top Justice Department official who pushed colleagues to endorse Trump’s claims of voter fraud.

3. Prosecutors have indicted leaders of the right-wing “Proud Boys and Oath Keepers” militias on charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with January 6.

All this suggests that the DOJ is pursuing a traditional organized-crime model in its investigation: Prosecuting small fish to build cases against the higher-ups. 

Even so, Trump will be able to argue in his defense that he lacked criminal intent, by claiming either that he genuinely believed the election had been stolen, or he did not know that interfering with Congress could be against the law.

The most likely charges against Trump are (1) conspiracy to defraud the United States, a broad statute that covers almost any illegitimate interference with government operations, and (2) conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding.

There is also a broader policy question surrounding a decision to indict a former president: Would it be in the national interest?

Jack Goldsmith, DOJ official in the George W. Bush administration, warned:Indicting a past and possible future political adversary of the current president would be a cataclysmic event. It would be seen by many as politicized retribution. The prosecution would take many years to conclude … [and would] deeply affect the next election.”

Others lawyers, both Republicans and Democrats, disagree vigorously.

Norman Eisen, former Obama administration official, argues:It’s essential that Trump be prosecuted, if only to deter him and future presidential candidates from trying to do this again. It would do terrible damage to allow a former president to walk free after committing acts for which anyone else would be indicted.”

Those debates don’t amount to a conclusive argument against prosecuting Trump. But they do add up to a list of reasons why Garland should avoid a rush to judgment while his investigators do their work — and that, to all appearances, is precisely what he’s doing.

My 2 Cents: As indicated above and no matter what Trump wants, needs, desires, or even has tried to accomplish since losing in 2020 the bottom line is this simple pic at least in my view after reading, watching, and listening to this man since he took office and more so before, during, and after January 6. 

Theodore Roosevelt (Address to Congress in 1903)
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW

That is simply this: 30% may stand with him and choose not to convict him, and 30% may still vote for him if he chooses to run in 2024, but isn’t America after all is said and done and played out about “majority rules?” 

I always thought so – what about you? 

Letting Trump get off the hook on the January 6 attempted insurrection and as many have said and I firmly believe is that he would come back come hell or high water and doom would follow in his retribution against his enemies – that is an absolute fact. 

Thanks for stopping by.

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